Comments for Is Hip-Hop Dead? at http://www.rapzilla.com/rz , comment 1 to 14 out of 14 comments http://www.rapzilla.com/rz Sat, 26 Jul 2008 17:40:49 +0100 FeedCreator 1.7.2 http://www.rapzilla.com/rz/content/view/534/83/#comment-1732 It goes up and down throught time. Hip Hop is not dead just different. snap and lean wasn't what was hot when during the disco era, and it won't be 30 years from now. Just enjoy your life and don't sweat was HOT or NOT. www.flavorradionetwork.com - FUDGE Wed, 21 Nov 2007 10:49:53 +0100 http://www.rapzilla.com/rz/content/view/534/83/#comment-1257 The Question is Is Hip-Hop Dead? well what does the word DEAD really mean webster defins dead as (deprived of life : no longer alive, lacking power to move, feel, or respond, lacking power to move, feel, or respond, no longer producing or functioning , or no longer producing or functioning), these are some definitions that i thought really hit the word dead on the head. so from those definitions is it really dead. it might seem that it is from the people that dont really like it and wish that it would be dead, But i think that the Hip-Hop industry will never be dead even though i hate to say that. it has a great influance on teens and even some adults that sill listen to it. we just have to roll our windows down and just listen if they are not listening to country, or rock they are listening to some form of rap, weather it is bad or wrong it is being listened to and if they are listeing to it that means that someone else will want to listen to it because they have heard a qoute that sounded nice or just sick with it, or brought the heat as you can say. so is it dead no,will it be around and will it influance our youth yes i hate to say that but its true. Now the really question is not that it wil inflance the youth or not but how much will it inflance. - michel` Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:07:42 +0100 http://www.rapzilla.com/rz/content/view/534/83/#comment-996 All secular music is dead! Anything seperated from THE SOURCE of life is dead. It has ministered death(lust,love of money, and all other forms of utter darkness)from its inception. The spirit of all Christ-less music is utter darkness, even the "positive" is mere deceptive humanism at best, and demonic and idolatrous self love (krs one) at worst. Satan or the world did not create rhythm or poetry or any creative expression, but the church being in such dinosoar-ish traditional ruts, allowed the unregenerate slaves of satan to discover this artform and use it before us. But, christian artists using God created "FLOW" (Flavorfully Laced Outspoken Words:hows that for a new name for christian rap) will not emmit the holy light inasmuch as we admire, fellowship with, imitate, desire the selfish recognition of, and honor the abominable demon possessed tools of satan! So the question is, is the "gospel" artist you listen to dead and like the world? The unholy dead world doesn't even want to hear such glaring contridictions coming from "christian" artists. It's not this unholy, world imitating, self glorifying, unoriginal,weak, and immature mess that's going to impact the lost or edify the young christian. Repent of that mess if you know you are guilty of this or supporting such cursed foolishness! It's utter darkness! If you are a rapper in denial right now of your sin in this area, all you need to do is check your own weak, powerless lyrics and repent! If you have any reference to your rhyming skills for instance, please know that you are in the flesh and self consumed and the Spirit of God is not actuating you at all at that point at least.If you are trying to sound like JZ or someone else,rapping about money, rapping stupid,rapping whack,don't have sufficient depth in the things of God, or if you are unsanctified, please know that you are misrepresenting Jesus on various levels. If you are feeding on even some of this "christian" music, foolishness is being ministered into your heart. Repent! In the old covenant it says that the musicians had it in them to sanctify themselves more than to priests! If you can't preach a coherent powerful sermon, I venture to say, you need not be publically rapping yet. You need to focus on walking in the Spirit and allowing Him to fill you, not with mere rhymes, but words of substance and life. - Rudderman Sun, 01 Jul 2007 15:10:04 +0100 http://www.rapzilla.com/rz/content/view/534/83/#comment-982 What is going on with you people?!?! : who u think Why is the Christian rap world talking about hip hop being dead? It's not about hip hop being dead its about Jesus Christ being alive. So many "Christian" artists are not really Christian or are becoming extremely distracted lately to the point where Christian rap is no longer about Jesus and what He can do for you and how He can save you and deliever you and redeem you but about how horrible hip hop has gone-with no solution to the problem. Christian artists should not be worried about hip hop. Its irrelevant to the gospel of Jesus Christ. And wasting time talking about how bad it is isn't going to do anything-it has no power, no authority, and no potential to save souls which being a Christian is really all about. They shouldn't be concerned about "being the glue in hip hop" and "holding it together"-paraphrased Tonex is really crazy he has really lost his mind he is really beside him(self)-he thinks it's okay to use profane language-check out his myspace blog Grits are hypocrites, Bonafide hosted a freakin video entitled Sounds of War talking about how we should be careful about the type of music that we listen to. Then he gets on this same freakin site and says in his interview What is currently playing in your CD player? Currently in my cd player, is nelly furtado, beyonce, outkast, ti, and ludicris. What artist do you want to collab with? Would love to collab with any of these artists or any artist who's serious about their craft and always strives to reach the top. Pigeon John- Showed his true music focus in an interview with Random Rules and said AVC: It's surprising how secular his comeback album was. It didn't seem like an enormous amount of spiritual growth took place between the first and the second. PJ: First he was just a rich local MC from Harlem, and now he's just a very rich Christian. AVC: Maybe the G in G-Unit will now stand for God. PJ: Honestly, have you heard that stuff? It's really raw. You've heard about Murda Mase? This is a year ago now, but he can't get out of the deal with P. Diddy. But he's back to rawness again. Actually, I heard that it's a lot better. I think everyone should just be themselves and leave God out of it a lot of times. I don't think God really cares about that stuff. He just wants everyone to be who he created them to be. We kind of clog ourselves up trying to do the righteous thing artistically. You can't approach doing art righteously. That's going to slow you down. And if you look at these peoples myspaces you should see where they get their inspiration and their influences from and I think to myself "Ain't that the devil on the topside of this earth" June 28, 2007 I feel I have got to respond to this persons comment. "irrelevant"? Hip Hop is our tool to reaching the masses, The state of Hip Hop should be a main concern for "HIP HOP" artists of all faiths especially those using it as a tool for ministry. A carpentor cannot build a house without a Hammer, or with a broken hammer. As hip hop artist we also need to be concerned over the millions of kids that are following the word of people like 50 cent and ending up dead, in prison, or strung out on drugs. These artist target young impressionable boys and girls and make money off missleading them! it makes me sick to my stomach, we should most certainly be worried about this beutiful art form that has grown into an out of conrtol monster! Stop judging christian artist's! they are sinners to and they make mistakes! Atleast they are speaking for god in there music. You cant expect perfection from any human being artist or not. - John Smiddy Sun, 01 Jul 2007 08:25:30 +0100 http://www.rapzilla.com/rz/content/view/534/83/#comment-958 Why is the Christian rap world talking about hip hop being dead? It's not about hip hop being dead its about Jesus Christ being alive. So many "Christian" artists are not really Christian or are becoming extremely distracted lately to the point where Christian rap is no longer about Jesus and what He can do for you and how He can save you and deliever you and redeem you but about how horrible hip hop has gone-with no solution to the problem. Christian artists should not be worried about hip hop. Its irrelevant to the gospel of Jesus Christ. And wasting time talking about how bad it is isn't going to do anything-it has no power, no authority, and no potential to save souls which being a Christian is really all about. They shouldn't be concerned about "being the glue in hip hop" and "holding it together"-paraphrased Tonex is really crazy he has really lost his mind he is really beside him(self)-he thinks it's okay to use profane language-check out his myspace blog Grits are hypocrites, Bonafide hosted a freakin video entitled Sounds of War talking about how we should be careful about the type of music that we listen to. Then he gets on this same freakin site and says in his interview What is currently playing in your CD player? Currently in my cd player, is nelly furtado, beyonce, outkast, ti, and ludicris. What artist do you want to collab with? Would love to collab with any of these artists or any artist who's serious about their craft and always strives to reach the top. Pigeon John- Showed his true music focus in an interview with Random Rules and said AVC: It's surprising how secular his comeback album was. It didn't seem like an enormous amount of spiritual growth took place between the first and the second. PJ: First he was just a rich local MC from Harlem, and now he's just a very rich Christian. AVC: Maybe the G in G-Unit will now stand for God. PJ: Honestly, have you heard that stuff? It's really raw. You've heard about Murda Mase? This is a year ago now, but he can't get out of the deal with P. Diddy. But he's back to rawness again. Actually, I heard that it's a lot better. I think everyone should just be themselves and leave God out of it a lot of times. I don't think God really cares about that stuff. He just wants everyone to be who he created them to be. We kind of clog ourselves up trying to do the righteous thing artistically. You can't approach doing art righteously. That's going to slow you down. And if you look at these peoples myspaces you should see where they get their inspiration and their influences from and I think to myself "Ain't that the devil on the topside of this earth" - who u think Thu, 28 Jun 2007 01:06:23 +0100 http://www.rapzilla.com/rz/content/view/534/83/#comment-915 Hip hop could be dead, it's only as real as people make it. For me, I will always like hip hop. I mean, I can listen to other genres of music, but it's nice to have a bit of everything, and hip hop is part of that. If all I listened to was hip hop, it would probably get old after a while. - Jeff Tue, 19 Jun 2007 21:27:55 +0100 http://www.rapzilla.com/rz/content/view/534/83/#comment-908 If hip hop is dead then why fear. It's time for a ressurrection. If it hasn't happened already. When Abram encountered God, he became Abraham, When Jacob wrestled with God he became Israel. Saul was blinded by God, once the scales fell from his eyes all of a sudden his name is Paul. I see name change as part of the "born again" experience. Not everyone actually changes their name but it happens throughout the bible for a purpose to show us something. That when a person or even concept changes they change completely, leaving behind the old. Paul changed his name and it is never clear why he did, all we know is that he set himself free from the chains of his past. Humbling himself by letting go of the title that his old name gave him. Well AS for Hip Hop, I personally would like to see a name change. To refresh the scene. Unless it's God's purpose for Christian Artists to carry the baggage that the "Hip Hop" Title comes with. I believe the philosophy of HipHop was Elevation of Self by any means. Whether it is by earning respect, demanding respect or defying established laws in order to fabricate respect. But Christian Hiphop is or shall always be about Elevating Christ with love in spirit and truth. Heres a new name just to throw something out there: ummm... LYFE (L)oving (Y)hwh (F)or (E)ternity MUSIC GENRE or just life music. like what you listen to? I stay bumping Life music.. But then this would encompass all gospel music because they preach Christ they Breathe Life.. so I don't know. Maybe someone out there has a better name for Christian Hiphop in particular. - Discerner Mon, 18 Jun 2007 09:09:57 +0100 http://www.rapzilla.com/rz/content/view/534/83/#comment-899 Hiphop is us! I've said that since '97. If we are willing to admit that hiphop is dead.... then we need only to look at the 'death' inside ourselves. For ANY of you to act like there AREN'T alternatives would be for you to deny 1 Cor. 10:13. There is ALWAYS a 'way out' of the mainstream temptation to submit yourselves to the hypocrisy and materialism that we seem to be so frustrated with. I have BEEN hiphop (a pro-active member as opposed to an onlooker/fan) for over ten years now. Before that I grew up hiphop (in the culture). and I know, personally, so many creative and awe-inspiring artist (beats, rhymes, art) inside this lifestyle called hiphop. for me, it's always been a matter of support. the people that seem to 'make the 'decisions' tend to be the same people that only care about making money. In turn, they are only going to put money (in the desperately needed promo and manufacturing of an artist product) behind what they feel they will make money (and then some) back on. so if the 'peoples are buyin it, we'll make it' You wanna see hiphop come alive?... start finding and supporting the artist that relay the same spirit you want to see hiphop have. stop being a 'standby-er' and BE hiphop. Be a catalyst, spak a change, DO NOT support the things that you don't beleive in yourself (even if the beat is catchy). be active, be alive.... and you'll see hiphop will do the same. otherwise.... as a lyricist and prophet I can answer the question for you right now... YES.... hiphop is dead. - Dirt from Shadow of the Locust Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:08:30 +0100 http://www.rapzilla.com/rz/content/view/534/83/#comment-897 When all things die... they go "underground". Hip-hop has been on life support for many years now. True there are GREAT artists in the unheard ranks of the underground but with lack of financial support, labels marketing clout, and purchases from fans of the real art in retailers... how will anyone hear about it? We can hand CDs out all day long. Yea it will make a small difference. If you want to make an impact YOU have to get involved! Be Active! SUPPORT!!! For too long support has been lacking. YES even in Christian hip-hop! Support has been mediocre at best. I would love to see this trend reversed. Does the culture have it in it to do so? And to the people who feel as though CHH is all the same... I say to you "look around more". There truly is a diverse collection of artists and music available by Christ-centered individuals. If you run in the same circles you are not going anywhere. Look outside your comfort zone for more and you may surprised what you find. - Shaun B. (Pinnacle Rhythms) Fri, 15 Jun 2007 09:27:10 +0100 http://www.rapzilla.com/rz/content/view/534/83/#comment-890 KRS-ONE and Marly Marl brought out Hip Hop Lives.. why isent this relevant? theres plenty of great hip hop out there I think its just more underground and the people who listen to hip hop because they love it, and not because there friends/peers listen to it, will keep listening to great hip hop, you just have to look for it. Hip hop is far from dead. - djclutch Tue, 12 Jun 2007 20:53:06 +0100 http://www.rapzilla.com/rz/content/view/534/83/#comment-873 I was reading the comments above about how all Christian hip hop sounds the same. And from what I've heard so far, I would have to agree. I love the positive messages of Christian hip hop and rap artists, but some things are just not going to be effective for this generation. More specifically, they will not be effective for certain people in this generation. We need music and movements that reach all the different categories of people in the world. There is this one cat, El Prezidino that I've been seeing on MySpace. He is really different. I'm sure there are others similar to him, but I've never seen or heard anyone with his swagger, talking about the things that he talks about. I don't know how to explain it...it's just different. AND SO GOOD! We are going to need more artists like this one and we are going to have to support them. This is one way we are going to the change the world for the Kingdom of God. - LoveJesus Thu, 07 Jun 2007 12:23:55 +0100 http://www.rapzilla.com/rz/content/view/534/83/#comment-863 yeah I been saying that before NAS even made it cool haha but well I see it like this.... Only Secular Hip-Hop is Dead But Holy Hip-Hop will remain on this earth! =D to me thats freekin Awesome haha - BrickBeMe Tue, 05 Jun 2007 20:16:46 +0100 http://www.rapzilla.com/rz/content/view/534/83/#comment-861 "The masses have been fed a one-sided message for so long that they are now getting sick from its poison. They want something different. Something balanced. Something healthy. Hip-Hop is growing up and people in their 20’s, 30’s, and 40’s want to hear something deeper than just “throwing some D’s on it." "I believe this is a great time for Christ followers that do hip-hop music. There is a real passion and creativity behind many of these artists, as they’re not driven by the same goals as those that are just trying to get paid. I also believe this is a great time for all Christ followers in our generation to use this music as an outreach opportunity and a conversation piece." "Introducing them to some new flavor by passing along a hot CD from a Christ centered artist can be such a tangible tool. Groups like Flame, Precise, Pettidee, Cross Movement, and Da T.R.U.T.H. are all serving up some new heat this summer." I chose 3 different statments to express my thoughts upon. The first stamenet I 100 percent agree with. I cant listen to the radio anymore without wanting to tear my hair out. All the songs sound exactly the same. All the artist are talking about the same thing. Those two things get old real quick. When you cant show your depth as an artist you soon dry up. When everyone sounds the same it shows me a lack of creativity. Unfortubatly what happens is that artist who put on thier boys and thier boys will get that same sound or record companies will only sign the sound that is selling records. This doesnt only happen in the cecular realm. At the end of the day in both industries money is an issue because music is a business just like church Monday through Friday is a business. Bills need to be paid, salaries need to be paid. Second, this is the best time for us to stand in the gap. The problem is are we strong enough to do so? Christian hip-hop has always had to play catch up. Production wise, with delivery and lyricism. We have improved in these areas drastically but can we really stand up to the machine(the cecular industry)? Also, lets not get it twisted, our goals are not to get paid because our job is to spread the good news those who would like to do this full time must get some sort of income in order to take care of our family whether we set a fee or go by offering. Also we want to make good enough music to be able to move units because that helps us to spread the word of God as well as get our ministry heard which will help us to get royalties(money) to be able to grow our ministry. Lastly, going back to my first point and reffering to the last statment I pulled from the article above the majority of christain artist sound exactly the same. We all talk about the same thing which is Christ and is a good thing. From time to time you will have an artist rep christ lyrically in way that we never heard before or in way is reminiscent of some of our favorite cecular artists but it seem sthat there are two reighning factions in the Christian hip hop. Crossmovemnt and thier camo and Tunnel Rats and thier camp. So you are either a crossmovement clone or a tunnel rat clone. All the artist that come out under crossmovement whether from the east coast or from the south have the same signature sound and style and ministry and the same goes with Tunnel rats which goes back to my first point. We have to be more creative in how we present the meassge of Christ to the masses. Because in a sense all we are doing is doing the same thing as the cecular except with an extreme positve message. We need to be able to diversify ourselves. I not inspired by cecular or christian hip hop for this same reason. I find my inspiration in God and what he places in my heart to write about. You have those that are called to edify body and you have those called to add to the body. this needs to be clearly defined and we need to support each other ministries. People who arent saved cant cant understand the goodness of Jesus if they did we would have to work so hard to win them. All they look for when they look at a christian is not they way they talk by how they walk. They expect us to be perfect because they dont understand we arent perfect and we will never be. So what i am trying to say in a nut shell is that we need to work on meeting them at thier level. There is so much more I can say but i will stop at this point. This is the truth that i see. In no way am I here to start an argument or a debate but it seems that no one either sees the things I have brought up or just refuses to talk about them. just be blessed and ponder. No need for responses trying to make your point to me to show why I am wrong or what not. Just take it in and pray about it. 1 God, 1 Love, 1 Way.... - Abstract Unique Tue, 05 Jun 2007 18:42:38 +0100 http://www.rapzilla.com/rz/content/view/534/83/#comment-860 So true. Hip-hop will probably never die in the underground, though. - Matthew Kerr Tue, 05 Jun 2007 15:58:08 +0100