Immanuel

Even though I addressed you in the beginning of my comment, all of the comment wasn’t aimed at you. If you notice there are four paragraphs and I pretty much touch on my concerns in each paragraph.

Just take what you can. If it doesn’t pertain to you then bypass it. If it does pertain to you, then I pray that you will be blessed by it. Honestly, I’m not a fan (root word for fanatic) of Da Truth. I appreciate his artistry and his willingness to put Christ first, even in his business relationships. And although I must say that I admire his integrity, like you I’m a fan (fanatic) of Jesus Christ who gives him that integrity.

In saying that, I want to point out that there is a difference between correction and gossip. Correction involves making a person aware of a mistake and then talking to that person about ways to avoid or correct that mistake. Gossip is talking to someone else about that person’s mistake for any reason outside of love and concern for that person (i.e. the excitement generated by hearing about other people’s problems). Now unless Da Truth lives in your neighborhood, it is the responsibility of the saints around him to correct, edify, or enlighten him on any misunderstandings or errors on his part. If you cannot personally talk to Da Truth to find out what really happened then it becomes your responsibility to pray for him to have wisdom and discernment to do God’s will (not his, yours, or mine) if ever confronted by such a situation. Sometimes gossip is hard to discern because we have been doing it all our life. We even hear people doing it every Sunday or Saturday at our local churches. In fact, now that I think about it, I am as guilty as anyone in that my aunt and I were gossiping about my cousin before I wrote this blog… lol. Nevertheless, gossip is still a sin. I just prey that you and I are able to discern the difference.

Other than that, my other main concern was in how quickly we jump on the bandwagon of a rumor without actually knowing the truth of what happened. And since we don’t know the truth, (pun intended) it wouldn’t be wise for us to assume that the situation happened the way the rumor meal said it did.

Crosseyes

Keep it Real!We need our Artists preaching to the Lost not with the Lost,what Next you Want LaCrae to do a Song with Beyonce or Mariah Carey telling Women they dont have to Dress like Tramps,Dance like Strippers and act like Sluts,when they are doing all Three,we'll call it "Identity Remix",C'mon Keep it Real Keep It Christ!!!

First of all, thank you for sharing your opinions. I'm sorry if I offended you. It was not my intent.
Secondly, please, if it's possible, drop all preconceived connotations, and don't read this as an attack. It's really not. Re-read luta's comments. Re-read my comments. Honestly ask yourself: is our intent to solely harm? Ask yourself: If you (like luta did) felt like there was a problem, would you speak up? (Obviously, you would, because you did.) So why can't luta speak up when she/he feels there is a problem? He/she is not doing it hatefully. (Re-read the comments, don't you agree?)
Thirdly, yes, gossip is wrong, harmfully and childish. I agree with you. But what's wrong with seeking and speaking the truth. I was not trying to hurtful, I wanted to understand what his comment meant. My exactly words were “I'm not familiar with that event, and not quite sure I'm get your meaning. Could you explain a little?”. Searching for knowledge is different than just bad-mouthing someone for fun. As Christians, we are to hold one another accountable. Don't you agree? (Isn't that what you were trying to do?)
You said that the “purpose of the comment section on a Christian web-site is to encourage the Body and glorify God.” luta said “no question da truth is DOPE! /im a big fan and love his music.” That's not encouraging? Encouraging also means when brothers and sisters go the wrong, you encourage to go in the right direction, right? And when do that, that's glorifying to the Jehovah!

Okay, my main thing is this: You seem mad as us for doing same basically thing you did.
Your intent (I'm assuming) was to help us by showing us the errors of our ways. I will also assume because you didn't use flowery, sugar-coated words with us, so you know that it's better to honest than it pretend like every thing's okay. Think about it
luta most offensive words were 'just not a big fan on how the situation was handled.'
My most offensive words were "I don't know how working with Mary Mary is different than going on tour with Kirk Franklin."(which granted, you've now explained, but I didn't know when I wrote it/)
Not exactly gossip. Anyway (I hope) you can see were this is going, and you don't have to agree with me, but please consider some of what I've written. And if you'll excuse me, I've offended someone else (also about Da' T.R.U.T.H ) and I'm gonna read why this time...

This is for Angell’s, Iuta, and Immanuels comments:

Just because you know two bible verses does not give you the credentials to judge what God has put into the heart of this artist. The problem with HHH fans is that we forget that we are Christians first and often times act no different that the world, even when it comes to spiritual matters. What you are doing is gossiping which is a sin and is something that you probably used to do when you were part of the world. And unfortunately you have taken that bad habit with you into God’s Kingdom. Spit that foulness out of your mouth before the Lord spits you out of his mouth. The purpose of the comment section on a Christian web-site is to encourage the Body and glorify God. Ask yourself if your comments do either of those. If the answer is no, then repent and go back to the Lord.

CMR, Lampmode, and Reach have openly admitted that they base their collaborations off of relationships, which is the only way that any of us can have discernment over someone’s intentions unless you are God and know someone’s heart before even meeting them. It doesn’t matter who the person is, i.e. Mary Mary, Kirk Franklin, or any other Christian artist. Just because a person screams Christ doesn’t mean they are about Christ. Just because a person works with secular artist doesn’t mean they are for the world. But in order to discern that apart from their music, you would have to have a personal relationship with them. Da Truth has admitted to having a personal relationship with both Kirk Franklin and Mary Mary. His convictions have brought him to the decision that He and Mary Mary are not equally yoked as far as their intentions but he and Kirk Franklin are. That is called integrity. We must honor God in all things, even business practices. The problem is that you are discerning what he should have done by your past knowledge of what the world would do in such a predicament. But we no longer play by their rules, we play by the rules of God.

With that being said, remember that we are given specific word by God forbidding a Christian to yoke his or herself to the world. And although Kirk and Mary Mary choose to work with secular artist, Da Truth doesn’t. It doesn’t make any since to say that by not working with such artist makes him selfish; in fact it is just the opposite. Working with a secular artist would have given him more exposure which by their rules would be a good thing, but not at the expense of his convictions. Remember there are only two kingdoms here on earth, one of the enemy and one of God. Working along side someone who makes music (ministers) for the wrong kingdom puts you at odds with the Kingdom you belong to. You don’t have to be yoked to someone to minister to them and you don’t know if Da Truth ministered to him or not. All you are going off of is a rap song from Technine. Where is the wisdom and discernment in that?

We all have been given different paths and assignments form the Lord and his could be to set an example of what Christian integrity should look light as an example to other Christian artist. The fact of the matter is that the relationship between He and God is a personal one and we don’t have a right to speak on his personal convictions or judge his motives. Yet, we are quick to jump all over the gossip when we don’t even know the whole story. And even if you did, just because you know two bible verses does not give you the credentials to judge his heart.

Don’t keep it real, keep it Christ like
crosseyes

He is one of my favorite rappers
and I feel he should have gotten
his props a while ago, but I'm
glad the MOG is getting them now!
Praise God!

no question da truth is DOPE!
im a big fan and love his music.

just not a big fan on how the situation was handled.

this is the difference between:
christians rappers (christians who rap for people who are christians)
(lecrae, da truth, tadashi, etc
christian rappers (christians who rap for people who arent christians)
(deepspace5, mars ill, braille, redcloud etc)
and
christian rappers (christians who rap for saved and unsaved alike)

Thanks for the 411. I guess he meant what he said in "Price Tag", but I don't know how working with Mary Mary is different than going on tour with Kirk Franklin.

With that said, I still like Da' T.R.U.T.H and can't wait to hear his new album. Hopefully it's fiyah! I don't agree w/ all his beliefs, but for the most part, I do share his views. No one is perfect, and I'm not gon' shun someone for making mistakes.

What's up party people...

I would warn Angell (funny..my name is Angel, too) and luta, that we need to be careful about judging Da' T.R.U.T.H. about his reasons for "build"-ing with Tech N9ne.

I agree that he should try to minister TO secular artists when he gets the opportunity to...but ministering WITH secular artists is a very dangerous thing to do in regards to the kingdom. Even ministering WITH some artists who claim they're Christians can be dangerous, if God has revealed major things about their life that don't match up with the ministry and goals that God has given you.

In the words of Alistair Begg, "we begin linking arms with all sorts of strange people" when artists who profess Christ just start jumping at every chance to do music with secular or any artist that comes their way. Granted, I see Kaboose doing a track with Royce Da 5'9" and others in the industry doing the same...

...but our job is not to look down on those who won't hook up with secular artists, but to encourage those who won't minister TO secular artists.

...our job is not to look down on those who do tracks with secular artists, but to encourage them to live out the message of Christ and minister TO secular artists.

Let's not be "plankeye-d" people...only God knows the whole story.

Yeah.. that's funny. Tech N9ne is a secular emcee who was put onto Da TRUTH my a friend of his and he listened to album and was trying to get in touch with TRUTH to build with him. And the Da TRUTH turned him down because he wasn't a Christian. So Tech N9ne wrote a song about him and how he's a hypocrite. Perfect example of Christian emcees trying to be self righteous. He missed an opportunity to minster to someone b/c he doesn't deal with non Christians and gave this dude and bad testimony. I mean I get it, you can't get back to everyone, but there you have it. There's alot that bothers me about this guy. I used to enjoy his music but his interviews kill me. How can you say you won't do a song with Mary Mary but yet you didn't mind going on tour with them. Kirk Franklin works with secular artist, musicians, etc but he's not moving away from him either... Come on Truth, if you going to speak "truth" then you need to be about truth! Don't just be about Da TRUTH! ya dig! I think some of these artist need to go back to their beginnings and remember why they started doing all this for... It was to lead people to Christ! I mean I think it was... I hope it was...

I'm not familiar with that event, and not quite sure I'm get your meaning. Could you explain a little?

He should talk about almost being able to minister to Tech N9ne, but turning him down because he only ministers to Christians.

this is so far the 4th thing i'll be waiting for...i am surely gonna get this, and Tedashii's. cant wait for the new crae music vid, and Trip's new vid!also the new DWYL tour! 2009 is gonna be great!

This is what I'm talkin about I'm gettin his album and Tedashii's

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