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| I agree. Criticism is for refinement. If the criticism is from the point of refinement and encouragement, to encourage a higher standard of quality in future works, then it is biblically approved, I feel. | |
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As a writer that likes to eat, I feel you. However, your alliance is to the readers--and the people that purchase music. If I read your review (a false positive)and decide to a purchase an album because of it and it sucks, well, I'm going to be upset...and may not TRUST your judgement, writing or site. Is it worth losing loyal readers? |
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| Yo my comment goes out to Sphere Of Hip Hop. Yo I give yall crazy respect fam. Its about time that more people do what you guys are doing and care about artist developement. Hopefully a few of the more successful artist and Christian lables will offer tips to alot of the up and coming guys. Be blessed!!!! | |
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I would have to agree with what "whitleyd" said. Some of the people who is the most promoted and talked about in the Christian rap is straight thrash lyrically. The same way you can tell if somebody can sing, is the same way you can tell if someone can rap. The talent will be evident!!! The question with preachy rap like Da Truth and Lecrae vs say the non-preachy method of say Grits and T-bone is an matter that should be settled biblically. Rappers, secular or GODLY ones all preach!!! It's just what are you talking about. If you say you are a Christian/Holy/Gospel rapper, then it is your Job and duty to proclaim Christ fullness in your lyrics not yourselves!!!!! The difference with people of the Lecrae/Trip lee/Da Truth fold is that there whole mission is to passionately state Christ glory at all times!!! So the question I have is what are you doing this for!!! Regarding the reviews...be HONEST!!! An white lie/ saying something is decent/good when you know that it is not...is still an LIE and GOD is not PLEASED!!!!! When I first heard flame, I thought dude first album and second album was straight trash!!! I thought his flow was incredibly weak and the beats and lyrics was soo subpar. I recently listened to his new album(Our world Fallen the one that came out this year 08) and I can honestly say it is an GOOD album. The question never was what he was saying was right, but how he was delivering it!!! The beats/flow/lyrics have GREATLY improved,lololol. So writers and reviewers of Gospel/Holy/Christian rap, in order to properly critique the music. The way it should be done I believe is this: Is the music biblically sound, Is the beats up to par with the rest of the industry secular or GODLY. Same with the Lyrics and flow plus songs ideas??? This is how I think it should be done. Thank you for ya time and Keep JESUS first in ya life!!! GOD BLESS and 7^s Up |
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I agree that there should be more honest critiques given to Christian Hip Hop artists. It was around this time last year when I watched an artist perform on Christian television really late at night, and his rap barely reverenced Christ at all, not to mention his flow was weak (for the lack of a better word). During his interview during the show the hosts were praising him for his music. If we don't honestly critique artists, then more artists will emerge like the one I watched, with a watered-down, non-creative message. If an unbeliever who listens to secular Hip Hop was watching the same broadcast I watched, they would have probably laughed at the artist and his music and possibly be driven further from Christ. We must critique in love, because the message of our Lord may be compromised if we don't. |
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| I tottlay agree. The body of christ should be honest with one another. If you not feeling project don't post something contrary. You are not helping the artist but hurting his character growth. Open rebuke is better than secret love. Faithful are the wounds of a friend. The kisses of your enemy decieve. Grace and Peace. | |
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| I believe our music is Holy Ghost inspired music is the best out there mainstream or not including secular. But of course every artist wants to think so...and if its not so wouldn't you like to know why? So im asking everyone who reads this message, especially the author of this article, to please listen and judge our music. So we put ourselves out there and what is the point if it is not edifying the body, and that includes music....emancipated_mimes on myspace...or hit us up to listen and critique our lastest music recorded at This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it | |
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I have a christian friend I play US christian hip-hop songs to. He is normally like " that is sick or wicked(WE ARE BRITISH) His favorite artists are probably corey red and precise. I don't have the album yet, but I played him the single GUNZ DOWN I downloaded from rapzilla. HE DID NOT LIKE IT he thought it sounded like a LIL-JON copy. If u re like me ur probably thinking LIL-JON! that's probably one the best songs I have ever heard. But then again people have different tastes likewise christians think differently. I think we should give as fair and honest a review we can give. Matthew John a.k.a emjay ST.ALBANS, ENGLAND |
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| Thier is no problem with telling an artist,no matter what genre,that their album is whack.We need to grow the gospel by good music.The Gospel is the Good News not the alright news or the whack news.These artists need to touch the youth.The youth like tight beats first than tight lyrics.Both equal not one higher above the other. ChristMatic Jesus Christ is always Automatic! | |
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| the problem is that, in the christian community we have different rules. whereas in the secular world, people can use derogatory terms, be overtly negative, and just plain out bash an artist, in the christian world the artist reviewed is our brother/sister in christ, they are preaching the gospel, its just like a preacher that doesnt preach in the certain style u like to hear, u still accept him if he is on point biblically, and realize the problem isnt the preacher, its my refusal to hear the gospel from someone other than the preachers i've grown to respect. so when we mix ministry and music it becomes such a complex thing to judge because one could be on point biblically and preach awesome sermons thru song all the while cant flow to save his life. this problem isnt nearly as prevalent in other areas of christian music because either u can sing or you cant, its not that hard, albeit in rap music you have artists like soulja boy, etc. where the line between truly talented and horrible is ominously gray. we should have numerous categories such as ministry, creativity, potential, skill displayed, etc and not give an overall good or bad review but let the review itself be objectional, and let the fans decide which they care more about, because a lot of christians dont like totally sold out rap like lecrae or trip lee, they feel it isnt creative enough, and plenty of other christians dont like sublimal chrisian rap like grits, which is creative but not preachy enough for them. so how can you put two artists that are after two different goals in the same category, that isnt fair to either artist. just a thought | |
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None at all, if it's honest... explains why it's getting scored low... it's not mean spirited... offers constructive criticism and so on, it's all good with me. The problem most often is with the artist. 95% of the kick back I've ever received on our reviews at Sphereofhiphop.com has come directly from the artist. Most of the time they weren't willing to come to grips that they aren't making *classic* albums like they think they are... even worse having all of their fans readily toss around such labeling (or my favorite "fire") causes them to believe their own hype. Criticism should be welcomed especially if it's being offered in the right way. You'll rarely find another spot like ours that cares more about artist development. We've shelved reviews in the past because it wouldn't have been helpful to the artist. They were shown the review and had it explained to them why we wouldn't post it. Then they were offered some suggestions, help and other direction to improve. Going the extra mile is important because few are willing to give to people without getting something in return... that's another soapbox for another day though ;) |
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| I agree with writer "whitleyd". That was a mouth full. I say some of these Christian Hip hop artist need to go back and review over there album before they release it. And while they're reviewing it think about what would the lost say about this album? Christian Hip hop should compete with the secular artist to control the air waves. I'm not saying lose the message and drop the ball, but INVEST your MONEY in some really good Christian producers. And stop jackin secular beats to get the WORD out. We are Christian we should jack Christian artist beats, like the secular artist do with their own. GOD is excellent, so as a body we need to push out excellent music. It's a shame when I introduce Christian hip hop to a unsaved cat and he laughs like this has no effect on me. | |
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| i have heard some albums even those reviewed here on rapzilla sayin they was good but they wasnt i couldnt get wit the beats or how the rhymes flow so i missed the message i find my self wantin to just over look an artists flaws and suffer through a song if i liked their past music.tougher honest reviews will bring the quality of Holy Hip Hop up and more emcees will rise tot the standard | |
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I don't feel this problem. Being freelance journalist myself over here in the Netherlands, I will ABSOLUTELY say when an album is not dope at all. Wether it's in a review or in my weekly radioshow, why not? Music still is music, and should be judged as music... the message in the music has nothing to do with that! I also see that in the christian world people like everything other people drop, just becuase they're christian too. I think that sucks. I keeps a lot of peeps from evolving, only and just because they don't get propper feedback. Let's aim for a higher level, let's be honest, let's be picky! Peace |
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| i understand everything you're saying and agree compltely, but isn't there a problem with some of the critics overly UNDER-doing it (make sense?)? one thing i've noticed about rapzilla is the fact that they hype up some of the worst sounding christian hip hop artists known to man (maybe because some of the reasons mentioned above)...yet they fail to recognize FULLY how great some of them are. Think about it, maybe it isn't just the bad albums that get good ratings, but maybe some of the critics at rapzilla feel like they need to overcompensate for this imbalance by underscoring some amazing artists by giving them a lesser score. For example...i know 4-stars is good and all, but why in the world didn't Trip Lee 20/20 get 5 stars (it should get 6)? This baffles me! Sure i'm a huge huge fan of the 116 Clique, but I listen to other Christian hiphop too, and this is probably the best album i've heard to date, PERIOD (and this includes secular hiphop)! It's almost impossible to find an ENTIRE album (every track) laced with clever, bibically-sound, and meaningful lyricism and rhymes accompanied by a great beat, a great hook, and with a great supporting cast (Lecrae, Tedashii, Sho, Flame, Cam, etc), especially in Christian hiphop where sounding corny used to be so easy. This was a terrible rating, and if I didn't know any better, I'd assume the critic didn't listen to the entire album but probably hopped on iTunes and listened to 30-second snippets. You mention "career-killers" above, but man, be a career promoter. The more these great albums get out there, the more legit Christian hiphop will be. And this isn't to promote Christian hiphop in and of itself (nor the artists...like Trip even says: "I ain't no superstar"), but rather to advance the Gospel to those in desperate need of the King, and to do so through culturally-relevant tools like hiphop. Let's leave those albums where people seem to promote self (like the Soul P. album, where it also sounds compltely terrible except for like one song...sorry, just following the guidelines mentioned above in the article) and have awful flows and beats, and lets get the good stuff out there that not only sounds great, but that promotes Jesus Christ first and formost (like the 13 Letters album and Da Truth), and where the Gospel isn't compromised for sound quality. Love you guys though, stay faithful. | |
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I, for one enjoy an honest review. I recently released a record, sent it to reviewers and it wasn't even touched. If it wasn't felt, I'd like to know about it. I've been around a while and still feel I can be better. The only way an artist grows is by constructive criticism, feedback, and direction. I wish there were more who offered to do that. |
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Good article!! Even though the message is great in gospel rap albums, there are other aspects where a person might say. "Hey I dont't like this album". Its done in secular music and I know there is at least 1 gospel rap album that all listeners do not enjoy. Thats my story and I am sticking to it. |
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